BatchSearching

Historical Archives
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this might be old news but I’m finding it valuable for my work. Has this
been addressed before?



Batch Searching the
LDS films from home: “Or how to get the most bang
for your buck when ordering films.”



The batches are just that: “batches” of information keyed into the Family
Search website (http://www.familysearch.org). This
is information that is taken from the films and entered into the International
Genealogical Index. (Not just there but for the specific purpose of Mexican
Genealogy that is where I’m finding my ancestors).



How to find the batch numbers?



well you can go to any LDS Family History Center and look at the Fiche
for your particular surname of research. Find the Fiche for the State then
for the Surname and then find the towns your Ancestors came from.



Orrrrr


From the home page just go to the IGI page that looks like this:

Father Last Name
*First Name *Last Name
Jose
 Garcia
 Mother Last Name
Spouse Last Name




Event
Year Range Year
Birth/Christening 
   Exact year
   + or - 2 years
   + or - 5 years
   + or - 10 years
   + or - 20 years
  
		  </td>
		  <td> 1865 			  </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap" class="inputLabel"> 				 
  
  <div id="RegionLabelID">   <label for=""

title=“Select a region”>Region

 

  <div id="LocaleLabelID"><label for="" title="Select a place">
		           
  <div id="CountryLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">Country</div>
		           
  <div id="StateLocaleID" style="visibility: visible;">State</div>
		           
  <div id="ProvinceLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">Province</div>
		           
  <div id="CountyLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">County</div>
   </label> 			   .</div>
		  </td>
            <td valign="bottom" class="inputLabel"> 			          
  <div id="SubLocaleLabelID"><label for=""

title=“Select a place”>

State

  <div id="ProvinceID" style="visibility: hidden;">Province</div>
			       
  <div id="CountyID" style="visibility: hidden;">County</div>
   </label> 			   .</div>
		  </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td nowrap="nowrap" class="inputField">   Mexico        
  </td>
            <td><br>
Zacatecas 
		  </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap" class="inputLabel"><label

for=“” title=“Enter a batch number”> Batch Number

Serial/Sheet Number Film Number




* Use exact spelling


and select the name, Jose Garcia***. Set the options for: Mexico, the estado que quieres (the state your researching), Baptisms, and set the date for 1865 plus or minus 10 years.

***We used Jose Garcia only because of it great popularity.

then hit the search button.

when the 200+ matches appear then use the "find" option of your computer and set it for the name of the town you are researching. Hit search. Now look at the different choices for your town and find the one that is closest to 1875 and click on the name. Just as an example I'm going to do this for the state of Zacatecas and town of Tepetongo. here is what the page looks like from the "Jose Garcia" closest to 1875:

573. JOSE GARCIA MARIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 NOV 1868 Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico

well Number 573 is not to far from 1875 so we click on this and get this page:

JOSE GARCIA MARIN
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 
    </tbody>       
  </table>
   </td>
22 NOV 1868 Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: JOSE MARIA GARCIA Family
Mother: JUANA MARIN
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C600837 1859 - 1869 0445162 Film NONE

Now see that batch number at the bottom and see how it is a hyperlink? Well click on that and you'll go to this page:

Father Last Name
*First Name *Last Name
Mother Last Name
Spouse Last Name























Event
Year Range Year 
  All
  Birth/Christening
  Marriage
  Death/Burial
  Other
  
            </td>
            <td><br>
   </td>
            <td class="inputField">                        
  
    
   Exact year
   + or - 2 years
   + or - 5 years
   + or - 10 years
   + or - 20 years
  
		  </td>
		  <td>                  			 

  <div id="RegionLabelID">   <label for=""

title=“Select a region”>Region

 

  <div id="LocaleLabelID"><label for="" title="Select a place">
		    </label>       
  <div id="CountryLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">Country</div>
		           
  <div id="StateLocaleID" style="visibility: visible;">State</div>
		           
  <div id="ProvinceLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">Province</div>
		           
  <div id="CountyLocaleID" style="visibility: hidden;">County</div>
		   .</div>
		  </td>
            <td valign="bottom" class="inputLabel"> 			          
  <div id="SubLocaleLabelID"><label for=""

title=“Select a place”>

State

  <div id="ProvinceID" style="visibility: hidden;">Province</div>
			       
  <div id="CountyID" style="visibility: hidden;">County</div>
   </label> 			   .</div>
		  </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td nowrap="nowrap" class="inputField">          
  
  None Selected
  Africa
  Asia
  British Isles
  Carribean Islands
  Central America
  Continental Europe
  Denmark
  Finland
  Germany
  Iceland
  Mexico
  North America
  Norway
  Ocean Islands
  South America
  Southwest Europe
  Southwest Pacific
  Sweden
  World Misc.
  
            </td>
            <td><br>
   </td>
		  <td align="left" class="inputField">                      

  All States
  State Unknown
  Aguascalientes
  Baja California Norte
  Baja California Sur
  Campeche
  Chiapas
  Chihuahua
  Coahuila
  Colima
  Distrito Federal
  Durango
  Guanajuato
  Guerrero
  Hidalgo
  Jalisco
  Mexico Estado
  Michoacan
  Morelos
  Nayarit
  New Mexico Territory
  Nuevo Leon
  Oaxaca
  Puebla
  Queretaro
  Quintana Roo
  San Luis Potosi
  Sinaloa
  Sonora
  Tabasco
  Tamaulipas
  Texas Territory
  Tlaxcala
  Veracruz
  Yucatan
  Zacatecas
  
		  </td>
		  <td align="left" class="inputField">                      

		  </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap" class="inputLabel"><label

for=“” title=“Enter a batch number”> Batch Number

Serial/Sheet Number Film Number
C600837







*
Use exact spelling


now click on Search and you get all the entries entered into the IGI file for Batch C600837 on Film 0445162. You can be more selective by entering a surname in the surname window and now get all of the entries for that surname on Batch C600837; Film 0445162 covering the years from 1859-1869.

So now write down the info Batch: C600837 Years: 1859-1869 Film: 0445162

now erase the surname and change the 7 at the end of the batch number to an 8 and hit search. You'll come up with a lot of entries. Click on the first one and scoll to the bottom of the page and you'll fine this information: Batch: C600838 Years: 1869-1875 Film: 0445163. Save this info also for future reference.

Try this again changing it to a 9 and you'll find it won't work so we've found the latest available (I think) Batch info entered into the IGI for Tepetongo Baptisms.

try it again going in the other direction using 6 then 5 then 4 then 3 then 2 then 1 and you'll find that this works except for the period of time between 1842-1850.

Your chart of the above info will look like this:

Tepetongo, Zacatecas 1750-1875

Year Range Batch Film

1750-1797 C600831 0445156
1797-1817 C600832 0445157
1818-1831 C600833 0445158
1831-1842 C600834 0445159


1850-1858 C600836 0445161
1859-1869 C600837 0445162
1869-1875 C600838 0445163

Now how do we find the Batch number for film 0445160 covering years between 1842-1850?

Go back to the beginning and instead of inserting 1865 as your starting point insert 1845 plus or minus 2 years for Jose Garcia. Hit search and find Tepetongo and you get: and you'll get the following:

23. JOSE FRANCISCO DE JESUS GARCIA BERMUDES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 03 DEC 1843 Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico

click on this and you'll get this page:

JOSE FRANCISCO DE JESUS GARCIA BERMUDES
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 
    </tbody>       
  </table>
   </td>
03 DEC 1843 Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: CANDELARIO GARCIA Family
Mother: MARIA ENCARNACION BERMUDES
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J600835 1842 - 1850 0445160 Film NONE

and thus we see that the Batch number for those missing years is J and not C. . ."No I don't know why they did this."

so the completed chart looks like this:

Tepetongo, Zacatecas: Bautismos 1750-1875

Year Range Batch Film

1750-1797 C600831 0445156
1797-1817 C600832 0445157
1818-1831 C600833 0445158
1831-1842 C600834 0445159
1842-1850 J600835 0445160
1850-1858 C600836 0445161
1859-1869 C600837 0445162
1869-1875 C600838 0445163

Now if you are researching this area of Zacatecas you'll be able to do surname searches from home using the specific Batch numbers. Just insert the Batch number in the Batch number window, Select Mexico as the region, enter the surname you want to research. Hit Search and you'll get all the entries for that surname for that Time span on that Batch number and film.

Now there might be easier ways of doing this, but with a little time you can make up a chart like the above for all your areas of research interest. You can even make up charts like this for areas you think your relatives might have come from or migrated to. That way you can find almost all the surnames you're interested in during those time periods on those particular films without having to order the films. Now of course you'll still have to order the films to confirm the info is correct or to find the padrinos or to find the grandparents for records after 1800, but you might be able to narrow down your selections a bit more. You'll also be able to make your time more productive is you have a list of all the people you're looking for on a particular film ahead of time so you can go directily to those records.

hope this helps. Some of it is probably confusing and I'd be glad to try to explain it better if you like.

Joseph Puentes
makas@...


Joseph Puentes
de Diaz, Aguallo, Ledesma, Casas, Alvarez,
Varela, Gonsalez, Sanchez, Leanos, Marquez, Torres, Santa Maria, Lugo,
Espinosa, Romero, Banuelos, Miranda, Muro, Nava, Castaneda y Rivas.

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Most of the below generations resided in Santa Maria de Los Angeles,
Jalisco though I have strong beliefs that Justo Puente moved there
from his original residence of Sombrerete, Zacatecas.

. . .then there was
Justo Puente who met and married Maria Josefa Sanchez
they had Josse Cipriano Puente who met and married
Eduarda Torres, they had Josse Cecilio Puente
who met and married Dominga Varela, they had
Jose Julio de Jesus Puente who met and married
Victoriana Gonsalez, they had Julio Gonsalez Puente
who met and married Virginia Diaz, they had
Antonio Diaz Puentes who met and married Louisa,
and they had me.

Most resided in Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco but I believe
that Juan Jose possibly came from Santa Ines, Jalisco or even
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas.

. . .then there was Juan Jose Diaz who met and married
Maria Concepcion Castaneda, they had Jose Vicente Diaz who
met and married Maria Hipolita Caciana Rivas, they had
Jose Tadeo Diaz who met and married Genoveva Leanos, they
had Jorge Diaz who met and married Andrea Torres, they had
Francisco Diaz who met and married Antonia Santa Maria,
they had Virginia Diaz who met and married Julio Puente, they
had Antonio Diaz Puentes who met and married Louisa,
and they had me.

En Espanol:

La mayoría de las generaciones de las cuales voy a hablar residieron en
Santa María de Los Ángeles, Jalisco. Aunque tengo la certeza de que
Justo Puente se mudo de su residencia original en Sombrerete, Zacatecas
para alla.

. . .entonces, Justo Puente conocio a Maria Josefa Sanchez y se casaron.
Ellos tuvieron un hijo Josse Cipriano Puente que conocio a Eduarda Torres
y se casaron . Ellos tuvieron un hijo, Josse Cecilio Puente que conocio a
Dominga Varela y se casaron, ellos tuvieron un hijo, Jose Julio de Jesús Puente
que decidio casarse con Victoriana Gonsalez, ellos tuvieron un hijo,
Julio Gonsalez Puente que se caso Virginia Diaz y tuvieron a Antonio Puentes
que se casó con Louisa, y me tuvieron a mi Joseph Puentes.

La mayoría residieron en Santa María de Los Ángeles, Jalisco pero yo creo que
Juan José posiblemente vino de Santa Ines, Jalisco o de Tlaltenango de Sanchez
Roman, Zacatecas.

. . .entonces, Juan José Diaz conocio a Maria Concepcion Castañeda y se casaron.
Tuvieron un hijo, Jose Vicente Diaz que conocio a Maria Hipolita Caciana Rivas y
se caso con ella. Ellos tuvieron a Jose Tadeo Diaz que se casó con Genoveva Leanos,
y tuvieron a Jorge Diaz. El se casó con Andrea Torres y tuvieron a Francisco Diaz
que se caso con Antonia Santa María y tuvieron a Virginia Diaz. Ella se casó con
Julio Puente y tuvieron a Antonio Diaz Puentes que se casó con Louisa,
y me tuvieron a mi Joseph Puentes.

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